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First day with cromax didn't go well!! 1 year 5 months ago #31055

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Hi all,

As some of you know I'm smart repairing at the minute, and up until today I've been using autowave. I've been really impressed by it (especially so after learning on here how to dilute it correctly! :rofl ), but we've all been forced into a move over to Cromax.

I have to say my initial impressions are that it ain't the easiest paint to blend out! With autowave a quick flick and you were golden, but today I did a small area on a door in Citroen EZR (a pretty coarse silver) which needed about 6" x 8" of base, and I might as well have taped up a square with newspaper and rattle canned it :blush: Even with the extra 20% 1640 binder recommended for spot repair I just couldn't get it to blow out easily, ending up with the customary dark halo all around the base area. Admittedly the colour was a bit dark which didn't help so I'll try a lighter shade next time, but it made me look like a novice.

I think I'm going to have to try laying a wet bad down first and see if that helps. Much more messing around than I'm used to but I've got to make it work somehow.

Apart from that it goes on really well and dries pretty quickly too (in just above freezing temperatures!). I bet it would be really nice in a "proper" booth painting environment doing full sized jobs.
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First day with cromax didn't go well!! 1 year 5 months ago #31057

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Hey ho mate these things happen. I suppose you cant really expect to just 'get it' using a product the first time.

On another note, Ive started using the wetbed (still on solvent) and it makes life so much easier so it cant hurt to try.
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First day with cromax didn't go well!! 1 year 5 months ago #31064

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Jimmo makes it look so easy in his video.
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First day with cromax didn't go well!! 1 year 5 months ago #31073

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I'm not familiar with the 1640 recommendations. The spot repair method I've been shown is a 50/50 mix of basecoat and wb2091. I've only done a few spot repairs with it but I had no issues.
Believe none of what you hear, half of what you see..... and then you'll have some idea what's going on
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First day with cromax didn't go well!! 1 year 5 months ago #31080

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Jimmo, I think I'm on an older version of cromax, rather than the pro you're using. Looking through some tech sheets online last night it seems there is a basecoat blender available (1601wb) but they haven't given us that!
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First day with cromax didn't go well!! 1 year 5 months ago #31086

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Andy T wrote:
Jimmo, I think I'm on an older version of cromax, rather than the pro you're using. Looking through some tech sheets online last night it seems there is a basecoat blender available (1601wb) but they haven't given us that!

Gotcha, I cant even find any listed products on my software. Guess i'll be of no help lol, but good luck brother! If a conversation with my dupont rep produces any advice i'll be sure to pass it along.
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First day with cromax didn't go well!! 1 year 5 months ago #31125

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Are you using the old Cromax not Cromax pro? I didint think they even still made that. A wet bed should help for ya.
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First day with cromax didn't go well!! 1 year 5 months ago #31134

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I think so jim. All of the products have been decanted into plastic bottle with nothing but a number on. The two binders are labelled 1640WB and 1650WB, the toners/ pigments are numbered in the 1400's and 1500's (eg 1401, 1402 etc) if that means anything.

Basically a guy came and loaded some software on my laptop, then a few hours later a delivery girl came with a couple of boxes of paint. That's as much as I know about it so far, the rest I'm trying to pick up from Youtube!! :lol: Talk about throwing you in at the deep end!
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First day with cromax didn't go well!! 1 year 5 months ago #31140

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Tell the boss you want a mini De'Beer scheme!
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First day with cromax didn't go well!! 1 year 5 months ago #31143

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That would be nice!

I'm still using up my autowave stock where I can but I tried the cromax on a black Honda today. No blending issues of course with it being black, and I was impressed by the covering power and how well it held up to having 2½ coats thrown on in one go. I was expecting it to split, sag or separate somehow in the cold but it didn't.

A bit of practice and I'm sure I'll get used to it. Some training might have been nice though! Or even just a rough idea of how to apply it, rather than relying on what I can find out on the internet or from a guy I know that used it a few times in a booth :deadhorse
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